Date: 2018-01-03 08:32 pm (UTC)
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"You can stay here and help us figure this out. I mean who knows. Maybe this is a second chance at redemption. " Barry says as he eats his own pizza. "You never know, Sav. You might actually like us." He adds.
Edited Date: 2018-01-03 08:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-03 08:39 pm (UTC)
snowandfrost: (Default)
From: [personal profile] snowandfrost

Caitlin looks back and forth between all of them. Barry had a point. She pouts out her bottom lip and shrugs. Yeah, Barry had a good point. Savitar might actually like their team now more than in the future. Whatever future that may not even exist anymore. That future had Killer Frost in prison and here she was working on Team Flash.

Date: 2018-01-03 08:52 pm (UTC)
vivifier: (like your SOUL)
From: [personal profile] vivifier
He doubts it. He really, really doubts it. Judging by the vague eyeroll he gives in response to Barry and Cisco's statements. He really has nothing to say about that, beyond grabbing another slice of pizza and wolfing that one down just as fast as the last one. And the bars they gave him. And...yeah, this hunger thing might be an issue.

Date: 2018-01-03 10:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thisismadfreaky
Cisco finishes off the slice of pizza he was eating and glances between the rest of them. He has no idea how to navigate this. He's personally pretty sure Barry is wrong and that Savitar doesn't actually know how to like anyone or anything anymore. But he seems mostly out-voted, here.

Date: 2018-01-04 02:08 am (UTC)
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"I don't wanna put you in the pipeline. I don't wanna put you in the meta wing at Iton heights. If I trusted you not to hurt anyone I'd let you leave but I'm sorry. I don't. So you can stay here. We will keep you fed. You can help us figure out what's going on and find some happiness or if you don't want to stay here well. You could stay with me.". Iris isn't there so Barry isn't worried about her finding him. She's on assignment in Star City and the into Coast City after. She'll be gone at least another week and a half.

Date: 2018-01-04 02:40 am (UTC)
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Either way, he needs to stay in STAR Labs. They couldn't just let him walk out of here. Not even if it is in Barry's care. She purses her lips and crosses her arms, thinking on it. They know that Savitar being in Barry's care would mean he would be in good hands. But at the same time, she wonders if Savitar would be agreeable to seeing that apartment again.

Alternatively, they could...stay...here. But Caitlin isn't ready to bring up that thought up just yet.

Date: 2018-01-04 04:02 am (UTC)
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The idea of going to Barry's apartment gets Savitar staring at him with a sort of 'are you serious?' expression on his face. The idea of staying there much less the pipeline or Iron Heights is not appealing. Why not just suggest Joe West take him in, Odd-Couple-Style?

Oh, look. He's done with his pizza.

"Why?"

Date: 2018-01-06 03:12 pm (UTC)
thisismadfreaky: (Hold up)
From: [personal profile] thisismadfreaky
Cisco's head swings in Barry's direction at that suggestion. Was he...serious? "Nu-uh. I'm gonna veto that right there, buddy. He may be a part of you or whatever you wanna call it, but no way are you handling him on your own."

Yes. He will keep talking about Savitar like he's not here.
No. He doesn't care if that's super condescending right now.
This whole situation has him on a kind of edge he doesn't want to be on and Barry keeps saying insane things.

Date: 2018-01-08 11:49 pm (UTC)
scarletspeedster1: (flash unmasked)
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"Well if that's how you feel about it then I guess I'll just stay here with him." Barry is still eating. Oh look here Savitar have another pizza that Barry has plopped into your lap.

"I mean...I just...he hasn't done anything bad yet to warrant locking him up like a criminal."

Date: 2018-01-08 11:57 pm (UTC)
snowandfrost: (cait: boys)
From: [personal profile] snowandfrost

Caitlin looks taken aback. It's one thing for Savitar to stay at STAR Labs. That, she was...mostly fine with.

"I agree with Cisco, we can't have you two on your own. Not just the safety issue, but also we don't even know if you would feel right stepping into that apartment again after so many years, Savitar. It might trigger something in you."

Well, one of them is going to address Savitar. She doesn't like the idea of locking Savitar up just yet. He's still lost, as far as she's concerned.

Date: 2018-01-09 12:39 am (UTC)
vivifier: (And the rest be sent to Hell)
From: [personal profile] vivifier
"I'm not going in there." Hey look, he speaks sentences and not just one word at a time. Crazy. He makes a face at the pizza suddenly in his lap and makes no real move to open it. Hungry or not.

And at Barry's statement of 'not having done anything to warrant a lock-up? "I killed HR." It's barely loud enough to hear.

Date: 2018-01-16 10:55 pm (UTC)
thisismadfreaky: (So uncomfortable)
From: [personal profile] thisismadfreaky
Cisco hears Savitar's tiny, quiet-voiced admission. Not like he didn't know. But hearing it, said so plainly, and by the one that had done it, it strikes a chord in him and he snaps his attention to the double of his best friend. "Yeah. You did." There's not an ounce of sympathy in his voice as he addresses him. "Only one of many sins on your hands."

Date: 2018-01-16 11:02 pm (UTC)
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Barry sighs softly. He had been trying to avoid this. "We've all made bad choices, bad decisions. I'm not saying it's okay, because it's not...but I do believe in redemption and if you want a second chance, I'm willing to give it to you." Barry says honestly, because he has to believe in his ability to be better...otherwise there is no hope for himself.

Date: 2018-01-16 11:05 pm (UTC)
snowandfrost: (cait: hurting)
From: [personal profile] snowandfrost

"We've made bad choices." She knows more than any of them. "But even if we made bad choices, we didn't kill." She definitely didn't. "Not knowingly." She reaches and puts a comforting hand on Cisco's shoulder, wanting to wish the both of them away from Savitar right now. All of it still hurt, was still very much a fresh wound.

Date: 2018-01-16 11:21 pm (UTC)
vivifier: (very sad)
From: [personal profile] vivifier
Apparently, his reaction to that is to toss the box of pizza off his lap and back at Barry. "Yeah, well. I guess Killer Frost is just absolutely perfect, isn't she?"

Date: 2018-01-16 11:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thisismadfreaky
"You know what," Cisco steps toward where Savitar is perched, an accusatory finger at him. "Fuck you. I don't care what kind of mistakes we've made, you're a liar and a manipulator and a murderer and you're lucky I'm not the one with final decisions about what to do with you."

Yeah, it's safe to say he's still a little sore over the last time you were here, existing, Savitar.

Date: 2018-01-17 12:11 am (UTC)
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Barry heaves a heavy sigh, eyes locked with his double. "I didn't say she was perfect, I didn't say anything at all about her. I said that I know you've done bad things and I'm still willing to help you. I've killed people, other metas. I didn't have a choice, it was self defense. But I still did it. I still have to live with it.

You have a chance to be better. To be different. There's good in you, whether you admit it to me or not. You don't HAVE to hate everyone. We're not the ones who abandoned you and made you feel unwanted. WE haven't done that to you, you can't punish something for something they haven't done yet. So all that hatred and anger you have...you're aiming it at the wrong people."

Date: 2018-01-17 12:18 am (UTC)
snowandfrost: (cait: hurting)
From: [personal profile] snowandfrost
She shakes her head and stands up. No, she doesn't need to hear this conversation. It's only going to be thrown back in her face multiple times and she doesn't need to be here.

Instead, she quietly walks away from the group before her anger got the better of her.

Date: 2018-01-18 09:02 pm (UTC)
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He balks at the mirrors and shakes his head, wasting no time at all in darting after Caitlin and catching up to her in the hallway. "Caitlin, wait," he catches her fingers in his, tugging her to a stop, "it's okay. He's an asshole. What he says doesn't count."

Date: 2018-01-18 09:21 pm (UTC)
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She doesn't get that far before he catches up with her. Caitlin stops when she feels Cisco's fingers in hers and looks at him. Wordlessly, she immediately moves toward him for a tight hug. She isn't denying her past as Killer Frost. It's still a very fresh wound for her, something that she thinks about all the time, even though she and Frost have gotten to a better understanding of each other.

Date: 2018-01-18 09:47 pm (UTC)
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He doesn't mind that she doesn't have the words for any of this right now. He pulls her tightly against his chest, holding her until she remembers how to think, speak, breathe, whichever comes first.

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Date: 2018-01-19 01:02 am (UTC)
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Savitar watched the others go. He wasn't exactly surprised at that. "What if I don't want your help? Or their help?" He certainly doesn't want Joe West's help, or Harry's. He can't imagine that this would even be going in this direction if they were here. "What if I want to go?"

Date: 2018-01-19 01:15 am (UTC)
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"Where are you going to go otherwise?" Barry counters, crossing his arms over his chest. He wants to go after Caitlin and Cisco but he can't leave Savitar unattended. It wasn't so much that he only saw the good in him, but that he needed too. He needed to give him a chance to be better because if he couldn't then what hope did Barry have to ever be better. He saw it as what made him different from his enemies.

"Who wants you? Who's going to look out for you? I'm offering you hope here, I'm offering you a chance with no strings attached so long as you play nice. You will never find a better offer. But if you still want to go, well I'm sure Cisco can open a breach somewhere inhospitable that we can toss you in."

Date: 2018-01-19 01:19 am (UTC)
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Oh, that's a look of both horror, confusion and skepticism on his face right there. "So you're big, let us help you speed is seriously 'No one else will ever want you around, so you might as well let us do it or we'll boot you to Earth 15?' Really?" Scoffing. "With an offer like that, how can I say no?"

Date: 2018-01-19 01:38 am (UTC)
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"You don't listen do you? Or do you just hear what you want to hear and damn the rest? I WANT you here. I WANT to help you, I WANT to prove to you that things can be better. But YOU won't LET me. Plus, you were a complete asshole to my friends just now and that is not okay. Say whatever the hell you want about or to me, but leave them out of this." Barry says still standing his ground, still not backing down at all in the face of him. Barry has had enough of being afraid of Savitar.

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